2 nuevos Retroclones... RETRON3 y el Retro Twin

[inerte]

por 10 dolares de diferencia prefiero el retron 3, además que ofrece la posibilidad de colocar los joysticks originales de cada una de las 3 consolas.
si bien ahora cuesta 69.90, no olviden que es un "pre-order" seguramente el año que viene se consigan por debajo de 50

[Old_SKool_Fool]

The system preview for the RetroN3 is here: http://www.dasreviews.com/das-latest-gr ... ng-system/
I think that $89 and $69 is way to high a price for that unit. Especially when you can get the earlier version of the system here (the FC3) alot cheaper:
http://www.dascheap.com/fc3-plus-gaming ... nesis.html

[Game.Genie]

The system preview for the RetroN3 is here: http://www.dasreviews.com/das-latest-gr ... ng-system/
I think that $89 and $69 is way to high a price for that unit. Especially when you can get the earlier version of the system here (the FC3) alot cheaper:
http://www.dascheap.com/fc3-plus-gaming ... nesis.html

Where are you from Old Skool?. Most people in this forum only speak Spanish. Thanks for the links, by the way...

[TRWOV]

The system preview for the RetroN3 is here: http://www.dasreviews.com/das-latest-gr ... ng-system/
I think that $89 and $69 is way to high a price for that unit. Especially when you can get the earlier version of the system here (the FC3) alot cheaper:
http://www.dascheap.com/fc3-plus-gaming ... nesis.html

The FC3 propietary controllers aren't very good. The Retron3 allows the use of official controllers which is a big plus. Also this could be the very first clone to support the Zapper for that same reason.

Hyperkin has reported that the NES part will use an improved version of the NOAC used in their FC Mobile 2. The SNES part will of course use the Yobo TCT-970 series chipset, like every other SNES clone.

There has been no mention of the Genesis chipset but it will either be the Yobo TCT-6705 or the TecToy 580G. If Yobo is indeed manufacturing the Retron3 then I suppose they'll use their own chips. I hope that they wire pin #29 this time.

[Cryog]

Aqui les dejo un pequeño review del miembro del foro de Atari Age , StoneAgeGamer sobre su primera impresion con el Retron 3.
fuente: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/16 ... 138a9071a4


Well played with the Retron3 a little bit and here's some of my impressions.

Pack-in controllers as expected are pretty disappointing. If you are buying this system because of its wireless controllers do not bother. The system plays games fine, my biggest problem is the controllers so I will comment mostly on those.

First the wireless controllers seem to be from the same mold as the GEN-X/GN Twin so I don't know how long they will last. Also unfortunately the are IR and not RF. So if you do not have a clear path to the system then they won't work well.

Playing NES games:
Packed-in Controllers - Wow amazing they actually seemed to have gotten to mapping correct playing NES with the pack-in controllers. A = B and B = A. I also believe Y = turbo B and X = turbo A. Unfortunetly this is one of the few places they got it right.
Offical NES controllers - Mapping is fine. They work as expected. The controller ports are a little tight though, however I was using a 3rd part controller and this may have been why they were tight.

Playing Genesis games:
Packed-in Controllers - Wait these controllers were modelled after the Genesis controller, yet are mapped wrong? Yes. For some stupid reason if you are playing Genesis games with pack-in controller A = B and B = A. This won't affect you on some games, but any game that requires you to be holding A and hitting B or holding B and hitting C its impossible. I played Road Rash 2 with these controllers and it was basically unplayable because I could not hold the throttle and punch at the same time. Obviously this mapping does not affect Sonic games.
Offical Genesis controllers - I was expecting the A/B mapping to be backwards on these as well, but to my surprise they seemed to have mapped the official controllers correctly.

Playing SNES games:
Packed-in Controllers - There's a little chart on the back of the controller telling you what buttons are mapped to whch buttons. You read the SNES chart and it all makes sense. A = B, B = A, C = R, etc. However its not right. Somehow these controllers are mapped like how the Retro Duo controllers were laid out. Y = B, B = A, X = Y, and A = X. Confused? Yeah it is confusing. Personally I like how the Retro Duo laid the buttons out better, so this did not bother me. However, I know it may bother some people. Also C = L and Z = R. So those are backwards from what you may expect.
Offical SNES controllers - Well at least they are mapped correctly with official controllers right? Wrong. They are mapped the exact same way with official controllers. I forgot to test if R/L are mapped correctly. I assume they are.

The system feels pretty solid and looks a little better in person than pictures. I do not know about any game compatibility since I don't really have time to go through a bunch of games. I would recommend it over the FC3+ strictly due to the official controller ports. However, if you hate clones right now this system will not change your mind. There are still a few perplexing issues. If they fixed this button mapping issue and used some decent pack-in controllers with RF this would be a home run.

Its still a great space saver and if you were looking into getting an FC3 I would really look into getting this system instead.

[Shinnok]

Bueno mas o menos entendí...o sea que con los controles se mandaron unos mocos tremendos Tanto cuesta sacar algo bien ?

[TRWOV]

No, que decepción lo de los controles de SNES Creí que Hyperkin ya había aprendido de sus errores. Digo, OK, ellos solo lo comercializan pero como pueden permitir que salga con tales errores.





Para los que no sepan ingles, los mayores problemas con el control son en la parte del Genesis y del SNES:

Genesis:
- En los controles del retron3 A = B y B = A, o sea que están invertidos.
- Si conectan un control de Genesis los botones funcionan normalmente A = A, B = B, etc.



SNES:
- En los controles del retron 3 el Y y el B están en la fila de botones superior y el X y A en la inferior Osea, B, Y, R arriba, A, X, L abajo Lo mas normal hubiera sido Y, X, L arriba y B, A, R abajo
- Si conectan un control de SNES los botones están rotados un espacio hacia la derecha O sea, Y = B, X = Y, A = X, B = A Horrible!!! Si el juego no tiene opciones para cambiar los botones puede que resulte injugable


Tal vez estén pensando "bueno, quizás sea un proto y lo corrijan", pues no. StoneAgeGamer tomo uno de los Retron3 que tiene a la venta actualmente en su tienda y lo probo. Mal Hyperkin, Mal.

[Cheche]

Me parecio que decia eso de los joy de snes, pero con la traduccion de trwov quedo mas claro. Es bastante garron te digo me hizo cambiar de opinion

[Game.Genie]

Más razones entonces para preferir la Retro Twin!.
Saludos.

[Cryog]

Ya tengo las 2 consolas en mi poder.... voy a realizar algunas pruebas en ambas pero les adelanto algo por lo menos....el Retron3 funciona bastante bien y los juegos de NES y Genesis funcionan muy bien (el sonido en los juegos no es identico a cuando se utilizan las consolas originales, pero esta un 95% igual) y en SuperNES utilizaron los mismos chips que el Retro Duo.Por el lado del Retro Twin la emulacion de NES no es la mejor (el sonido se escucha medio distorcionado aun) pero en la parte de SuperNES es todo lo contrario.La compatibilidad de esta consola vs los clones anteriores de SuperNEs es superior.El Super Mario RPG ver. 1.1 que no funciona ni en el Retro Duo ni en el Retron3 funciona de maravilla en el Retro Twin.Y el Power Rangers ZEO Battle Racers que hasta ahora tampoco funcionaba en los clones de SuperNES funciona perfectamente tambien.